Comments on: Trib columnist shows honesty about logic of ‘gay marriage’

By: thohan

thohan — Wed, 22 May 2013 15:50:00 +0000

If I may paraphrase “Shane”: Discrimination is a tool. It’s as good or bad as the man wielding it. Marriage is discrimination of the best sort. We’ve correctly identified that arrangement as ideal for everyone involved. Just as you have discriminated in choosing a spouse. Thank goodness for discrimination, rightly applied.

By: Utahlady

Utahlady — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:01:00 +0000

Except it is against human nature. Polygamy ,it appears is one man and a bunch of females. Would you feel the same about 1 female and a bunch of males forming a union? Oh my ,perhaps we already have some variation of that nature and it is legal in Nevada. I heard a man once on a late night show say it was a very spiritual union he has once a week with 4 women at a little ranch in Nevada.

By: Derek H Monson

Derek H Monson — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:00:00 +0000

As an example/confirmation of how your asset-based argument against polygamous marriage would be met in a “gay marriage” society, see the following quote from a “gay rights” activist writing about polygamy (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/04/gay-marriage):

“But the reflexive belief that polygamous marriages must be evil and
oppressive even in societies where they are traditional is basically an
expression of cultural prejudice.”

Of course, you aren’t arguing that polygamy is evil or oppressive…but neither are we making such arguments about “gay marriage” is evil, and yet the other side simply chooses to respond with accusations of hatred and bigotry. The result would be the same in the case of polygamy, and your concerns about assets would be smeared simply as a rationalization of your hatred for polygamous love, which you have simply because of a cultural abhorence towards the practice of polygamy.

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By: Derek H Monson

Derek H Monson — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:40:00 +0000

That argument against polygamous marriage is pretty weak. So you’re arguing that society should accept “gay marriage” because of equality (i.e. it’s the moral thing to do) and deny marriage to polygamous couples because of assets? (i.e. the finances are difficult) That is morally contradictory, and it illustrates exactly why once society has accepted “gay marriage,” it must morally and logically accept polygamous marriage as well. I imagine the first question you’d face is “why do you hate polygamous couples so much that you can’t treat their love like everyone else’s?”

Your answer on incestuous marriages is also lacking. Note that in my blog post I stipulated that the “genetic reasons” were taken care of by a brother and sister agreeing to get surgery to sterilize themselves. If marriage policy is simply about recognizing the love of two consenting adults, how can you rationally and logically deny them the right to marry? It may make you uncomfortable, but in the world of “gay marriage” that is simply a sign of your hateful bigotry against the “love” shared by consenting and sterile brother and sister (or father and daughter, mother and son…).

By: Jacob F

Jacob F — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:37:00 +0000

You are not intelligent

By: Derek Briere

Derek Briere — Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:50:00 +0000

The analytics behind this astound me. Polygamy is legal, in terms of personal freedoms. Their marriage is not legal, because combining more than two people’s assets could lead to some serious consequences. Polygamous relationships are allowed to have a married partnership between two or more of the people involved, provided an even number of participants. Gay marriage would equalize rights of citizens. You are thinking that marriage is a way to promote child birth and that gay marriage would prevent that. This is a very skewed thought process, given that those who would enter into a gay marriage would not otherwise have children, anyway. Not biologically. Marriage can be a stabilizing force for any couple, and thereby encourage raising children, even in a same-sex relationship. Incestuous relationships are illegal, even when not involving marriage for very good genetic reasons. This is a stab in the dark on the part of those using such statements to defend “tradition.” This is what it comes down to: Society, governments in particular, recognize an institution between two people. Benefits are awarded those individuals. Both of those individuals should have the same rights as each other, however; person 1 has the right to marry person 2 or person 3, but not person 4. Person 2 has the right to marry person 1 or person 4, but not person 3. The reason behind this is gender. To be clear, this is a gender bias, which is illegal.

By: Adison

Adison — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 18:27:00 +0000

Will you list these benefits. People say marriage is a prize given by the government to couples because they have children. I bet that most other societal benefits can also apply to gay couples. Please also list how gay marriage is harmful to society.

By: Adison

Adison — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:49:00 +0000

You are right society does not have the luxury, and if children are the sole benefit of marriage then all those who are not able or do not want to have children should not be allowed to marry. Then marriages that have run their course and don’t have kids at home anymore should be disbanded. We would not want the state to encourage a no-child family. There are legal and financial aspects to marriage that help couples to grow and be stable financially and socially. Allowing gay marriage would allow them greater freedoms in combining assets and better protections in our healthcare system.

By: Trueliber

Trueliber — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:34:00 +0000

Polygamous marriage is good for society. If that is the standard, then there is no reason not to legalize polygamous marriages between one man and as many wives as he can well support. It would take people off of welfare roles. It would solve a lot of problems with fatherless boys. Gay marriage is harmful to society and stops the production of children. But polygamous marriage has many many benefits to society.