Comments on: Tribune ‘gay’ marriage column avoids the issue

By: Anti-Gay Waddoups Pitches for Bigots | Telestial State

Anti-Gay Waddoups Pitches for Bigots | Telestial State — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:03:18 +0000

[...] the standard conservative bigot’s playbook. He argues that gay marriage somehow redefines his infalliable traditional marriage, attacks the morality of LGBT groups with quotes from the Book of Mormon, and conflates true [...]

By: gary

gary — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:34:58 +0000

The LDS church, along with numerous other religious and charitable organizations, has signed an open letter regarding marriage and religious freedom. It’s no surprise that Tribune writers, and many of their readers, would take an opposing view – just as they routinely do whenever the word “religious” is in the text.
It’s also no surprise that there are those who would resort to the use of words like “bigot” and “homophobe” to further their argument. Name-calling and labeling is a trite technique, used primarily by liberals, to shut down rational debate – and it’s boring. While I adamently disagree with legalizing gay marriage, I do agree with one’s right to support it.

By: JBT

JBT — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:24:02 +0000

No language in a discrimination ordinance protecting homosexuals is going to be found acceptable by those who wish to discriminate against persons based upon their sexual orientation. The reason is that the Sutherland Institute’s position is that it is within their “freedom of religion” to view homosexuals as morally inferior and not entitled to equal treatment under the law. The irony of this position is astounding, since the LDS folks who hold this view also profess to be Christians.

The essence of this issue could not be more clear. You are either in favor of discrimination and prejudice against this class of citizens or you are opposed. All of the other verbiage is simply “fluff” to disguise and cover up this core issue. Prejudice and bigotry wrapped up in “moral values” is still prejudice and bigotry.

True love and tolerance requires that all are treated equally. You don’t need to like, accept, approve of, or adopt what others do in order to show them the love and tolerance to allow them to be who they are without discrimination or recrimination. This is the concept I would like to get across to those who disagree with me on this important topic.

By: KJS

KJS — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:41:11 +0000

Wikipedia? Really? Look, saying someone supports discrimination because they disagree with the wording of discrimination ordinances is much like saying someone supports world hunger because they don’t like the food that they’re being fed.

Sutherland has at least put forth their reasoning behind their disagreement with anti-discrimination ordinances. You, on the other hand, don’t seem interested in reasoning or dialogue. Going back to the subject of the original post, your “being hostile to those of differing … religious belief” sounds awfully bigoted to me.

By: JBT

JBT — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:26:09 +0000

From Wikipedia

“The predominant usage [of the word "bigot"] in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, nationality, language, sexual orientation,>/b>, and age; and to those from a different region, with non-normative gender identity. . . ”

I would argue that those who vigorously defend the practice of discrimination against the GLBT community such as the members of the Sutherland Institute are in fact “hostile” to those of differing sexual orientation and gender identity.

The use of the term “bigot” in my view is an accurate description of the traits exhibited by those individuals who are on a campaign to treat other citizens not as equals in society, but as lesser human beings by virtue of their different sexual orientation. The old adage “if the shoe fits. . .”

All discrimination and bigotry can be traced back to an innate fear of those who are the objects of this prejudice, hence the word “homophobe” accurately fits those individuals who vociferously stand up in defense of discrimination.

By: KJS

KJS — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:12:31 +0000

…or you could save space and a lot of time by repeating your simplistically inane “arguments” this way, “You don’t agree with me and must be a bigot or homophobe. Signed, JBT.”

By: JBT

JBT — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:00:25 +0000

I wonder why some Sutherland writers don’t just save space and write, “I don’t like homosexuals. Signed, [insert name of writer/homophobe].”

By: JBT

JBT — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:11:02 +0000

Granting legal rights and benefits to a gay couple that they would have if they were heterosexual and married does not in any way take away those legal rights and benefits currently enjoyed by married heterosexual couples.

Those who fought the hardest against interracial marriage made the same argument that allowing blacks and whites to marry would denigrate the institution of marriage for everyone. That simply didn’t happen. Broadening the definition of a married couple to include any two adults who are committed to one another and wish to share a life together has already taken place in several states across the U.S. All of the feared consequences of these same sex marriages exist only in the minds of the beholders.