Comments on: Inequality Utah

By: Paul Mero

Paul Mero — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:14:19 +0000

I’m hesitant to reply because I’m concerned you’re unable to get the point at hand: should we make laws based on what someone thinks someone thinks? If you’re unable to see the disturbing problem with that notion, I’m not sure what more anyone can say. The only logical defense of such a dangerous and preposterous notion is that a person can read minds.

By: JBT

JBT — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:49:06 +0000

Notice how much Griffin has added to this topic. All he has done has been to take a quote out of context from another thread, and try to use that against me in this one. All the while he is chastising me for “not adding anything of value in this discussion”. Hmmm . . . .

I actually (note the correct spelling) presented a clear and logical argument that responds to Paul Mero’s assertion that under an ordinance prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation that person’s who act in a discriminatory fashion can be punished for their “thoughts or perceptions”.

Underlying all discrimination and bigotry is the belief that a class of citizens are in some respects inferior, and therefore do not deserve to be treated as equals. I would argue that Paul, Derek, and Griffin who have all posted in these threads in favor of discrimination based upon sexual orientation have in their psyche, whether they admit it or not, the belief that they are superior to those brothers and sisters among us who have a same sex attraction.

Responses as to whether this is true or not are more than welcome from any of the individuals named.

By: Griffin T. Kearns

Griffin T. Kearns — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:08:39 +0000

Notice how JBT avoids the subject completely when he doesn’t have anything of value to add to the conversation.

This, boys and girls, is the manifestation of an internet troll. Once they lose the initiative, they quickly move on to such irrelevancies as grammar, punctuation and diction – things which have very little value in a chat room or comments section, and are a tell tale sign of a low, mean intelligence.

By: JBT

JBT — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:49:57 +0000

Acutal?

By: Griffin T. Kearns

Griffin T. Kearns — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:13:50 +0000

Acutal JBT quote from a previous discussion: “I understand your thinking Derek much better than you do.”

By your own admission, this subject is more than just “grasping at straws”.

Nice try though.

http://www.sutherlandinstitute.org/news/2012/01/03/oops-oh-yeah-that-does-create-a-protected-class-for-gays/

By: JBT

JBT — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:27:06 +0000

Discrimination is an action, not a perception. Applicants are refused housing. Employees are terminated. Well qualified applicants are not given jobs. Most gays are open about their sexual orientation these days and openly admit to being gay. You are grasping at straws with this “thoughts and perceptions” of the “discriminator” argument. Once the applicant or employee openly admits his/her sexual orientation the thought or perception then becomes first hand knowledge and if a discriminatory action occurs after this point, then such discrimination would become actionable under an ordinance banning discrimination based upon a person’s sexual orientation.